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8th January 2014, 08:37
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Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Biggin Hill
Posts: 0
Car(s): Audi A3 Tdi.
Tvr S2
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Tuning
Which model responds better to tuning, Vtr or Vts ?
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8th January 2014, 10:02
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L-plater
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hitchin
Posts: 49
Car(s): 106 GTI 140BHP
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VTS, the S stands for speed
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8th January 2014, 16:37
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 84
Car(s): Saxo vtr,
Passat 1.9tdi 130
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VTR, the R stands for rapid
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8th January 2014, 16:57
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 84
Car(s): Saxo vtr,
Passat 1.9tdi 130
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In all seriousness mate I'm sure a bit of searching would have provided you with an answer, you'd see how many vtr to vts conversions have been done and there's only one reason for this, its simple the vts is a more powerful engine its 120bhp standard opposed to the vtr's 90 or 98bhp, with decent breathing mods etc the vts will be 130bhp upwards you'd have to throw a fair bit of money at a vtr to try and achieve that.
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8th January 2014, 16:58
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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depends what you can afford to insure. A well tuned 8v will cost you more than a 16v but dont discount them as they can be just as fun
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11th January 2014, 10:32
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: London
Posts: 171
Car(s): Citroen Saxo 1.1 Desire
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I was asking that because I want to get one but people were saying a VTR but stick a VTS lump in im still confused over this mater and im gonna keep looking for my answers.
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11th January 2014, 10:36
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 11,712
Car(s): A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned
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get a vts in the first place. No point getting a vtr then going through the ballache conversion and the added vosa/insurance bill.
Depends on your budget, but the Vts is more expensive to run overall.
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20th January 2014, 16:18
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L-plater
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 75
Car(s): Saxo vtr with vts turbo engine
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Both the same but vtr I a little lighter with it not having abs or air con. If u can afford it vtr with vts lump all day long
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20th January 2014, 20:24
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jp-vts-turbo-28
Both the same but vtr I a little lighter with it not having abs or air con.
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What. The. Fuck?
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21st January 2014, 10:48
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L-plater
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 75
Car(s): Saxo vtr with vts turbo engine
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Owe yes
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21st January 2014, 11:23
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Morpeth
Posts: 2,539
Car(s): BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
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VTR's have ABS as well.
No UK Saxo's came standard with air-con.
The only notable extra weight in a VTS is the extra engine weight, if you stick a VTS lump in a VTR it'll weigh more than a standard VTR, you'll have just spent ages fucking on with it rather than just buying a VTS.
Alanapone on here is selling a tidy VTS mk1 for £650, at that money you'd need to basically get a free VTR to make it worth your while converting a VTR.
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21st January 2014, 13:00
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 7,779
Car(s): Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chops
Which model responds better to tuning, Vtr or Vts ?
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The R, as the letter R on the badges uses less plastic than the letter S
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21st January 2014, 13:29
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Little Mill, South Wales
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Car(s): Mondeo ST TDCI
Saxo VTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MuZiZZle
The R, as the letter R on the badges uses less plastic than the letter S
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Offers substantial weight advantage iirc.
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21st January 2014, 14:10
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 3,954
Car(s): Stage 1 Mitsubishi Evo 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brettles1986
Offers substantial weight advantage iirc.
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It allows 60 to be hit in 2nd gear also...
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21st January 2014, 15:52
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lincoln/Newark
Posts: 2,673
Car(s): Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS
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Depends what you have in mind. the 8v is said to be stronger for turbo conversions
The VTR gear box has shite ratios
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21st January 2014, 16:16
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 2,627
Car(s): Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
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A 1.0 is 'best' for 'tuning' Put a stock J4 in it and you have already gained 60bhp on standard, get 60bhp extra from a VTS will be a pain in the arse.
... S are quicker though and respond better to basic breathing mods.
The R don't respond that really.
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30th January 2014, 10:37
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manchester
Posts: 35
Car(s): Citroen Saxo Vts MK1 red
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VTS all day mate
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