My 198.4bhp vt'R' yo! *engine works (on predator)* - Page 19 - Saxperience

Quik_Pug · 4th February 2009, 14:45

Nah mate i forgot to join up but will do soon

rushy_23 · 4th February 2009, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Ryan

theres been a few varients of this engine though, I know of about 5 cars colin had sold it to, it was 5.5k fitted at PP, so 4k is laughable secondhand.

This lad eventually admitted that it was Dan Dodson's engine. I have the feature
of the car from PFC a while back now. The pics he sent me were of the exact same
engine (open blue piper pulleys with rusted bolts were the give away).

5.5k new?! He said 6k initially for it 2nd hand lol! Well I would of been the 3rd owner.

Ryan^p · 4th February 2009, 17:07

Im sure when i last spoke to colin it was 5.5k fitted.

Not 100% mind but it was around there new as colin was trying to get me to go for it when i was considering bodies.

That engines more of a whore than bics first one then with the curved M3 trumpets lol

rushy_23 · 4th February 2009, 20:13

LOL! Either way think its a good thing I didnt bother with it.

Whens the next time your putting the shllagggg on track?

Ryan^p · 4th February 2009, 21:14

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

LOL! Either way think its a good thing I didnt bother with it.

Whens the next time your putting the shllagggg on track?

nope better engines out there for the money if you were serious about getting a proper lump under there still.

Erm cars off for mapping on 17th, MOT due 19th.. so depends how soon I get the MOT certificate sorted tbh. Id like to get another day in this month lol

rushy_23 · 4th February 2009, 21:33

I think if I ever make the step up even a mild spec would much prefer my own engine man. Just the fact I know its a solid/well looked after base.

Cool, would love to check it out at the next event.

AlexR · 4th February 2009, 21:58

Dodsons engine was £6k fitted, but the build itself was prob only £3k worth of parts.

Ryan^p · 4th February 2009, 22:01

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Originally Posted by AlexR

Dodsons engine was £6k fitted, but the build itself was prob only £3k worth of parts.

colin told me 5.5k when i was looking so maybe he wanted my babies...

Either way 4k second hand not even fitted was a laughable price for what isnt really a high spec. I dont even think it used high comps, just standard pistons with extra work for the bigger valves and wilder cams. I doubt they were solid grind either as they were the '285' piper cams as advertised but colin wouldnt ever tell me what they really were.

Ryan^p · 4th February 2009, 22:03

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

I think if I ever make the step up even a mild spec would much prefer my own engine man. Just the fact I know its a solid/well looked after base.

Cool, would love to check it out at the next event.

ill probably be doing lydden next or brands AGAIN lol! wanna do donnington at somepoint in the year mind as love the track layout.

Getting a secondhand engine isnt bad, if you know where its coming from, my engine has had Ian who built it, then alex... ok its been used but I know the history of it and didnt have a problem buying it. Sometimes second hand is better, you know it works and can test drive it in a car, as oppoised to having an engine builder fuck it up, nick your money and run.

JayEmDizzle · 23rd March 2009, 16:40

I thought I knew a bit about cars..... The majority of these posts lately have gone completely over my head! Lol.

Shame... I wish I knew enough to be able to build somethin' really track-worthy.
Since my Furio's barely road-worthy. Ha.

AlexB^p · 23rd March 2009, 16:43

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Originally Posted by JayEmDizzle

I wish I knew enough to be able to build somethin' really track-worthy.

i wish i had a friend like alexr to build something then sell it me lol

love you really ry

Barry123 · 23rd March 2009, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

i wish i had a friend

AlexB^p · 23rd March 2009, 16:55

after i said you were cool earlier in an e-celeb thread too

Ryan^p · 23rd March 2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

i wish i had a friend like alexr to build something then sell it me lol

love you really ry

Might want to see who had the engine built then alex

his name was ian/porki on shed

Update anyway, its still fucked...... Ecu might be going off to emerald now.

dannygti · 23rd March 2009, 20:44

see what mr walker can do in his magic workshop

Ryan^p · 23rd March 2009, 20:45

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Originally Posted by dannygti

see what mr walker can do in his magic workshop

well ians K3 ecu wasnt liked by the car. So alex has emailed Dave to see why, as we are trying to see if we can get the car to run on another ecu (and show the M3D is fucked).

Wiring isnt happy though, think alot of the problems come from forgetting to remove the ecu in the snow.

AlexB^p · 23rd March 2009, 20:45

i knew ian had a hand nut didnt know he did the whole motor

Ryan^p · 23rd March 2009, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

i knew ian had a hand nut didnt know he did the whole motor

Ian had the whole car built. Cage, seats, 4pots, groupN billies, the engine he paid for etc etc...

Alex got it when it wasnt running from ian and got it road worthy again, updated the suspension (same as what I had for the s1) and then the diffed S2 box.

Alex and I both inherited what was mostly ians work/money. (Im not ashamed of the fact either, it saved me alot of money)

AlexR · 23rd March 2009, 22:18

I built the car essentially.

Fitted the 4 pots, suspension, cage, seats etc. Ian only fitted the engine & ecu(badly i may add)

Then i bought it, stripped it down, rebuilt it with the quaife diffed box, R888s, new clutch, new fuel system, redid oil cooling system, rewired it, redid the suspension(custom springs & pugsport dampers, refurbed beam, 22mm torsion bars, grpN bilstein rears, uprated bushes all round, no PAS), brakes & seats, stripped it out considerably more and fitted the carbon bonnet. Also replaced most of the nuts and bolts.

I originally bought the car just for the engine & cage to put in my red vts but decided to sell the vts, buy a decent every day car and keep the ghey blue car!

Anyway moving on:

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Originally Posted by Emerald

Hi Alex,
Yes, they are quite different. Here attached is the K3 software so you can try it out. It will only communicate with a K3 ECU. You will need to load your map into the K3 but save a copy to disk before you do that as it will convert the map to the K3 '.map' format and then you won't be able to use it in your M3DK ECU.

Below is some general advice on comms/startup etc. and there is a section which tells you about loading old .fig maps into K3 software.
If your ECU has a serial number 41272 or later it can be converted to the K3 spec. if you return it to us.
best regards
Leoni

Ryan^p · 23rd March 2009, 22:25

At least they got back to us rather sharpish on the email.

So you going to try the other ecu 2mo then after work?

Ill try and come over and sort the beam with you, as cant be fucked to go sort my glasses out I think lol!!