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27th August 2012, 21:12
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Originally Posted by joe333
Nope 100k on the clock, omp inox, piper 4-1 s1 inlet NOT CAMMED...118 bhp 8v osshh  |
well in that case i really would take that 118bhp with a pinch of salt
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27th August 2012, 21:21
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe333
Nope 100k on the clock, omp inox, piper 4-1 s1 inlet NOT CAMMED...118 bhp 8v osshh |
your seeing 118bhp with just them mods????? what you smoking? (not to be rude)
i wonder what my 1.4 will be pushing then?
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27th August 2012, 21:31
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#43
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Car(s): Mint 106 rallye,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayline
your seeing 118bhp with just them mods????? what you smoking? (not to be rude)
i wonder what my 1.4 will be pushing then?
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Dont smoke!
Nick got 134. somthing on a standard vts soo yeah not smoking anything mate
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27th August 2012, 21:34
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#44
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so hes got 134 with a standard vts and so that in your head means the rolling road is reliable? lol i think in most people minds it points out that it is over reading maybe?
kinda shot your self in the foot with that comment lol
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27th August 2012, 21:34
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Originally Posted by joe333
Dont smoke!
Nick got 134. somthing on a standard vts soo yeah not smoking anything mate
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im just curious how so minor mods made that kind of difference! fair play if the figures are true though 
just saw jeff's post, i'd get it dyno'd at least 3 times from different places and see what it says then!
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27th August 2012, 22:06
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#46
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alanapone made 110bhp on his old vtr and various other mk2 R owners made up to 118 on theirs at awesome gti a few times, not gospal figures but probably around ballpark
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27th August 2012, 22:10
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Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush
alanapone made 110bhp on his old vtr and various other mk2 R owners made up to 118 on theirs at awesome gti a few times, not gospal figures but probably around ballpark
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this is true but in this situation, its claimed he has 118bhp from a 4-1 mani and omp exhaust and s1 inlet, im guessing his vtr is a 98 bhp one so that would be a gain of around 20 bhp from them!
i didnt know that you could make a good gain from them as i thought it would make about 10 maybe 15 bhp at a push! i could believe the gains if it was cammed and may of said it was slightly underpowered!
Last edited by jayline; 27th August 2012 at 22:13.
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27th August 2012, 22:12
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If he's running a S1 inlet then he'll need the earlier head for stud pattern depending on if he's running black or silver top. So maybe it has a modified head that he's unaware of!?
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27th August 2012, 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mattrallye
If he's running a S1 inlet then he'll need the earlier head for stud pattern depending on if he's running black or silver top. So maybe it has a modified head that he's unaware of!?
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this is a good possiblility? joe333 any chance of this?
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27th August 2012, 22:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayline
this is true but in this situation, its claimed he has 118bhp from a 4-1 mani and omp exhaust and s1 inlet, im guessing his vtr is a 98 bhp one so that would be a gain of around 20 bhp from them!
i didnt know that you could make a good gain from them as i thought it would make about 10 maybe 15 bhp at a push! i could believe the gains if it was cammed and may of said it was slightly underpowered!
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Originally Posted by mattrallye
If he's running a S1 inlet then he'll need the earlier head for stud pattern depending on if he's running black or silver top. So maybe it has a modified head that he's unaware of!?
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he hasnt got a vtr he has a s2 rallye lol
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27th August 2012, 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayline
this is true but in this situation, its claimed he has 118bhp from a 4-1 mani and omp exhaust and s1 inlet, im guessing his vtr is a 98 bhp one so that would be a gain of around 20 bhp from them!
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just quoting this. If he has a rallye then that's a different story! lol
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27th August 2012, 22:53
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my bad then joe
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27th August 2012, 22:57
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Originally Posted by jayline
my bad then joe |
they are still only 100bhp so its still 18bhp from breathing mods, still basically a vtr engine power wise
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27th August 2012, 23:02
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#54
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Originally Posted by jeffchiz
they are still only 100bhp so its still 18bhp from breathing mods, still basically a vtr engine power wise
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i never knew the states of the rallye range? what do the s1 1.3's push out then?
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27th August 2012, 23:14
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S1 kick out 100bhp from a peaky little 1.3!
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27th August 2012, 23:17
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Originally Posted by Quick
S1 kick out 100bhp from a peaky little 1.3!
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sounds good, what are the general gains from a ported and polished head on one of these?
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27th August 2012, 23:54
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Ummmm.
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28th August 2012, 09:07
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1.3 Rallye heads are already good! Hard to make more power from it without loosing drivablilty!
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28th August 2012, 09:48
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#59
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Standard rallye had a better map with higher rev limit. I cant a mildly modded vtr making those kind of figures. Could really do with getting mine on a rolling road and see what it makes
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28th August 2012, 16:47
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#60
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The Rallye had a different cam and a better head.
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