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20th January 2009, 12:44
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vts cylinder head
hi, i bought a big valve head for my vts and am putting pt50k kent cams and vernier pulleys on it. i was wondering if it was best to get it skimmed and pressure tested before i put it on. ????
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20th January 2009, 12:57
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if then head is new then no i wouldn worry about getting it skimmed, but if its second hand it would pay to get it skimmed
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20th January 2009, 12:58
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jp4 head?
might be worth it just to check its all good before it goes in
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oh really.....
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20th January 2009, 13:02
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ok, is it not worth doing to raise compression? rather than peace of mind
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20th January 2009, 13:03
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there wont be bugger all clearance between your valves and your pistons if you skim it to much.... it will be close as it is with thous cams.
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20th January 2009, 13:08
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ok thanks,
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20th January 2009, 13:39
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About the camshafts... A waste of time IMO. Go for some 51's, or Catcam 708s or Newman's PH3's. PT50's will be hardly worth the bother.
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20th January 2009, 13:40
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as toad said pt 50s are a mild and (pants cam)
Re head skimming im not a fan, remeber the more you keep skimiming off the more chance of having the head written off if you have a HG failure and warping of the face
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20th January 2009, 13:41
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you also dont need vernier pulleys as std vts ones are adjustable
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20th January 2009, 21:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
as toad said pt 50s are a mild and (pants cam)
Re head skimming im not a fan, remeber the more you keep skimiming off the more chance of having the head written off if you have a HG failure and warping of the face
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Skimming doesn't cause gasket failure or warping, don't know who told you that!
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20th January 2009, 21:17
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Originally Posted by r_i_c_h_1
Skimming doesn't cause gasket failure or warping, don't know who told you that!
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what he's saying is, if you skim the head to lower compression if your headgasket did go you wouldn have enough metal on the head to skim of to correct the warp. hope it makes more sence
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20th January 2009, 21:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTR-120BHP
what he's saying is, if you skim the head to lower compression if your headgasket did go you wouldn have enough metal on the head to skim of to correct the warp. hope it makes more sence 
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Should be "raise"
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20th January 2009, 21:23
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[QUOTE=Toad;2902516]Should be "raise"
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20th January 2009, 21:26
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Ha! Since you were in a correcting mood, I thought I'd give you a dose of your own medicine.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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20th January 2009, 21:27
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Originally Posted by Toad
Ha! Since you were in a correcting mood, I thought I'd give you a dose of your own medicine. 
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cheers for that one old bean! lol..... i was only trying to make it clearer for him
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20th January 2009, 21:31
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I know mate.  It was good that you did, as I think he definitely got Ryan's comment confused. Good stuff.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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20th January 2009, 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r_i_c_h_1
Skimming doesn't cause gasket failure or warping, don't know who told you that!
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perhaps you should take reading lessons before trying to correct me again
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20th January 2009, 23:04
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Whats the best cams to put in my VTS?
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20th January 2009, 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigie460
Whats the best cams to put in my VTS?
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depends on the budget you have and how far you want to take the engine.
there is no 'best' set of camshafts for all
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21st January 2009, 08:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTR-120BHP
there wont be bugger all clearance between your valves and your pistons if you skim it to much.... it will be close as it is with thous cams.
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he'll have over 2mm clearance with those cams imo, they are very mild so will prob be near standard which has 3.5mm, lots of clearance.
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