Put a turbo on Saxo - Saxperience

Luigi · 21st March 2011, 00:42

i people... well i'm tired of mine Ph3 camshafts caus with my pistons with cavities.. i wont get the best performance that i had :\

well i was thinking in a turbo.. what do u say? the volume its more so.. do you think i can apply a turbo making 0,5 bar and have no prob?

thanks

Dom · 21st March 2011, 01:05

Yes, with only 0.5 bar boost you wouldn't necessarily need to have forged internals

Luigi · 21st March 2011, 09:28

thanks, but say me someting, i usualy drive calm but sometimes like to drive faster and some drags.. do you think that the engine will not colapse with those 0,5, its safe?

i was only thinking in the turbo and a radiator of oil..

-shuggles- · 21st March 2011, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Luigi

thanks, but say me someting, i usualy drive calm but sometimes like to drive faster and some drags.. do you think that the engine will not colapse with those 0,5, its safe?

i was only thinking in the turbo and a radiator of oil..

I may have mis-understood you're comment but are you only putting on a turbo and a radiator of oil?

Luigi · 21st March 2011, 22:28

well i was thinking on it....

its safer to the engine with only 0,5 bar or what?

-shuggles- · 21st March 2011, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Luigi

well i was thinking on it....

its safer to the engine with only 0,5 bar or what?

for a start there is alot more to do than that. I am not a turbo expert but you needs to sort out fueling,manifold,intercooler sort out you're compression the list goes on and on

LSOfreak · 21st March 2011, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Luigi

thanks, but say me someting, i usualy drive calm but sometimes like to drive faster and some drags.. do you think that the engine will not colapse with those 0,5, its safe?

i was only thinking in the turbo and a radiator of oil..

post a vid when you get that working

lharrowing · 22nd March 2011, 10:33

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Originally Posted by LSOfreak

post a vid when you get that working

i would also like to see this vid sounds good

Gary-VTR · 22nd March 2011, 10:42

I think the OP means an oil-cooled turbo rather than water-cooled.

&Judging from the name + commas instead of decimals, I'd guess English isn't his first language.

Saxovch22 · 22nd March 2011, 12:35

I thought he meant oil cooler

Luigi · 22nd March 2011, 13:36

hi people not my first language you're right

im portuguese.

yes i meant a oil cooler and a turbo..
this is what happened:

i had PH3 camshafts working great.. but i had put pistons with cavities and the compression and performance its now very bad :\

so i had 2 solutions:

- or a turbo, cause my internls are new
- or a better camshafts..

well after thinking.. the tubo would involve some more costs, and i should be carefull with it even with 0.5 bar.. so...

i will put a catcams 734, with my pistons with cavities... what do you think?

thanks to all

VTR01KBR · 22nd March 2011, 20:57

I say Turbo bud

saxoclarke · 23rd March 2011, 11:55

Everyones going to say turbo because they all wana see what it preforms like with one but a turbo will most probable require alot of cash and time to get running smooth, cams should be easier and safer option but all up to you.

Squeak_ · 23rd March 2011, 12:16

bodies ??

-shuggles- · 23rd March 2011, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Squeak_

bodies ??

might be a better idea to work with the cams?

Oc2 · 23rd March 2011, 16:37

Popular phrase... N/A the expensive way to go slow

a VTS
Bodies
PH4's (and all the headwork)

would see what? 180bhp?

a low boost setup would see that PLUS youd then have the option to turn the sucker up

AlexB^p · 23rd March 2011, 20:10

sounds like youve fitted lower compression pistons saying they have cavaties??

therefor the as a naturally aspirated engine it wont perform aswell as they generally use a higher compression ratio

if so then a turbo is about your only option if you want to keep them
a turbo setup isnt cheap and an oil cooler would be needed but so would an intercooler some form of better injection (wether it be a 5th injector and mf2 or standalone and bigger cc injectors)

you could keep the ph3s but returning to the standard exhaust camshaft may be to your advantage

Luigi · 24th March 2011, 20:30

thanks to all your opinions guys!

I had put the 734 camshafts

now i'll make the diagram with the specific degrees that catcams say for these camshafts... than ill post my feedback

blackie_2k5 · 24th March 2011, 21:32

even if youve fitted those cams.... if your pistons are low compression pistons, the performance will still be poor

can you get pics of the pistons tops, are they low compression, or do they have deeper valve cut outs

Luigi · 25th March 2011, 21:35

so these are the pistons: