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3rd October 2011, 16:12
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Leeds
Posts: 31
Car(s): Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1i
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Loose Brake Pad = AWFUL noise!! HELP!
I have had a noise, which is gradually getting worse, from my front offside wheel. I have had the wheel bearing replaced which was a little bit of the problem, but the noise is just as bad.
The only way I can describe the noise is that when I brake it sounds like a broken washing machine and I can feel the noise with my foot on the brake pedal! Its awful, you can hear it from outside too.
I have noticed that one of the brake pads are loose in the caliper, so I am assuming that it is that moving about that it making the noise. However, my partner has changed the spring clip that holds the pad in and it has had no affect?
Im not sure whether the clip is the wrong way round, but we have tried a few ways, or whether I need to replace the whole caliper!
Please help, im desperate its awful!!!
Thank you in advance!
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3rd October 2011, 16:45
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2011
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try rubbing some copper grease onto the contacting parts of the brake pads.
like on the ends and the back.
but make sure you dont get any on the surface tha touches the disk. 
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3rd October 2011, 16:55
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Thanks but it is actually smothered in copper grease lol
How do.I get it to stay in th caliper securely like on the nearside you can actually wobble it
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3rd October 2011, 20:20
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if the pad is loose when the brakes are all together and the pedal pumped up then you either have a seized piston or slider by the sounds of it
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3rd October 2011, 22:10
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Leeds
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Car(s): Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1i
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whats the slider?
I will get my partner to have a look at the piston. Is this difficult to replace?
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3rd October 2011, 22:39
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Right so i have been told that it is not very likely to be this piston as it is the pad that is on the outside of the disc and the piston is usually related to the pad on the inside...so im told. Is this correct?
Any more suggestions? Im ready to just get rid as the sound is unbearable!!! :'(
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6th October 2011, 09:56
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The piston in the caliper pushes the inside pad into the disc, and at same time pulls the body of caliper back pulling the outside pad onto disc as well, i'd take the outside pad off and try carefully pumping the brake pedal to see if the piston draws the caliper across, if it does then the piston should work fine, the sliders are on the bolts securing the caliper to the carrier allowing movement of the caliper when the brakes are applied and should be smooth and shiny in appearance, could try greasing these up at the same time.
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6th October 2011, 15:46
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2011
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thats brill thank you. Im going to have a look at it all at the weekend, but its getting worse and worse to the extent its all moving while im driving now, so i think im going to end up changing the caliper altogether. Thank you for your help and I hope it gets sorted soon!!! its driving me crazy!
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3rd September 2012, 18:21
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Devizes
Posts: 27
Car(s): Saxo Forte 1.1 51 (2002) 3 door hatch (gold)
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I wish the search button loved me and I'd found this thread sooner, check this out Emma3010 ... can't believe how much money I've thrown at this problem :o( would be interested to know if you resolved yours yet?
Check this out http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=433063
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3rd September 2012, 18:36
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Yearly bump? fair play. Think the OP just might have this resolved by now 
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3rd September 2012, 18:45
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Devizes
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lol, sorry about that, didn't check the date :o/
Am just getting sooo frustrated with it, have spent over 300 quid on parts and labour (although my sons done most of the work for me), just had to pay the garage to pop the baring and another to swap out the wishbone but fgs, 300 quid, almost complete front end rebuild and the fault's still there
Would be really interested to see how emma got on.
Apologies for dragging up an old post.
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3rd September 2012, 19:31
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Could have been the wrong size pad for the caliper - only got to be out 1-2mm and you'd not know, but would rattle to hell and back on braking.
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7th September 2012, 10:10
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: newcastle
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Car(s): mk2 vtr
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Carrier could be worn, get a garage to weld the pad heads to fit better
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7th September 2012, 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Saxobeat
Carrier could be worn, get a garage to weld the pad heads to fit better
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Welding onto a cast iron carrier? Rather replace the carrier for £5 from a scrappy personally!
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7th September 2012, 10:26
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
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No I said weld the pad, just an option
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7th September 2012, 10:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Saxobeat
No I said weld the pad, just an option
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Welding TO a brake pad? Never heard of that before, and not sure I like the idea at all... Where have you seen this done?
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7th September 2012, 11:12
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hold on, Mr saxo beat - not the guy with the faux supercharged "show car"? ha
Also screw welding the back of the brake pad for a better fit, i'd just source a good used caliper and new pads!
Last edited by Gandi699; 7th September 2012 at 11:14.
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7th September 2012, 11:25
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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yup, buy new caliper, job done.
very common on the bendix alloy bodied caliper, the iron carrier wears where the pads sit, and the alloy body around the sliding pins wear.
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16th September 2012, 13:38
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: newcastle
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Car(s): mk2 vtr
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Seen welding pads in the garage I worked in many times, instead of replacing pad carrier just weld a little on the pads
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