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6th March 2014, 22:28
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 13
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building a fast 1.1 can any1 give any advice:)???
Hi everyone
Im starting a new project building a fast 1.1.
The engine is the 1.1 spi it's a 00 mk2
So far I have breathing mods sorted
Custom hks induction kit
Apex universal air vent filter
Full stainless steel exhaust not sure of the make
Custom 4 branch stainless manifold
Rear seats removed
Carpets and sound deadening removed
Spare wheel removed
Half roll caged ordered
Disc brakes all round
Lowered
Full vtr kit
Smoked headlights
Gloss black badges
Windows getting tinted next week
Prob a few more bits im leaving out aswel.
No alloys on car currently as I sold my set of vts ones
Any ideas for any other mods( cams,carb tuning etc anything considered or any1 selling any alloys cheap 
Will upload a few pics on Saturday
when im back home.
Please no just get a vtr or vts, I don't want a vtr engine in it, I just want a fast 1.1 something different that
I have a 1.4 vtr engine lying around in the shed is there any bits I could use off that?
Any help at all appreciated Thanks 
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6th March 2014, 22:38
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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Would be a massive waste of money a "cammed" 1.1 with breathing mods would make 65 bhp max save your money for something worth tuning, in your position I would bang the 1.4 lump in.
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6th March 2014, 22:43
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 31,279
Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
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And it'll be still slower then a 1.4 Saxo Lol.
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6th March 2014, 22:55
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,368
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building a fast 1.1, and you've done the following
Custom hks induction kit fit a proper induction kit
Apex universal air vent filter
Full stainless steel exhaust not sure of the make get a decent exhaust, proven tried and tested, pug/saxsport, kam racing/supersprint
Custom 4 branch stainless manifold same as above, amount it takes to make a decent manifold, very much doubt this is helping
Rear seats removed
Carpets and sound deadening removed
Spare wheel removed and now you have a bumper acting like a parachute, fit/make a rear lower floor to smooth the airflow
Half roll caged ordered
Disc brakes all round
Lowered
Full vtr kit so you stripped it, then added weight
Smoked headlights why???
Gloss black badges
Windows getting tinted next week fit perspex ones instead
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6th March 2014, 23:10
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,593
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vtrsaxobuild2013
The engine is the 1.1 spi it's a 00 mk2
Any ideas for any other mods( cams,carb tuning etc anything considered or any1 selling any alloys cheap |
Hmmmmmm.... Something doesn't quite add up here.
In all honesty, just get a vtr/s.
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6th March 2014, 23:19
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 7,064
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Boost, stick a big turbo on to it!!
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6th March 2014, 23:33
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jarrow
Posts: 4,022
Car(s): 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR
1991 Daihatsu GTti
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If you've put the body kit on, get a r or an s
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7th March 2014, 07:30
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Piesok,Slovakia
Posts: 254
Car(s): Silver MK II VTS 1.6 16V 2002
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Sell it and buy VTS 
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7th March 2014, 07:33
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Blackburn, Lancashire
Posts: 596
Car(s): 2002 Citroen Saxo desire
2001 Volvo V40 1.9D
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Get done panels made from carbon fibre or fibreglass, drastic weight reduction!
Bonnet and wings! And as said, perspex windows!
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7th March 2014, 10:29
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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You can cam the 1.4 to make decent power (the 1.4 xsi as standard made 100bhp).
Or indeed a 1.3 rallye made around that mark too, however with those engines there were a lot of changes made to the head, induction set up and management to make that power so you really need to lose the 1.1 head and spi setup and by that time you could have put a different bottom end on it.
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7th March 2014, 10:48
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Newbie
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 13
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Hi thanks for the replies, I know the 1.1 is never going to be that fast I'm just looking for something with good acceleration more than anything not to bothered about overall top speed as it does around 115 anyway.
I was thinking of dropping the 1.4 vtr in but can't find a guide to splicing the looms:/
Also would the acceleration be much different in the 1.4 if I did go down that way??
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7th March 2014, 10:57
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Morpeth
Posts: 2,539
Car(s): BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vtrsaxobuild2013
Hi thanks for the replies, I know the 1.1 is never going to be that fast I'm just looking for something with good acceleration more than anything not to bothered about overall top speed as it does around 115 anyway.
I was thinking of dropping the 1.4 vtr in but can't find a guide to splicing the looms:/
Also would the acceleration be much different in the 1.4 if I did go down that way??
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It's totally utterly not worth it dude.
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7th March 2014, 11:00
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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115 out of a 1.1 yeah? Indicated maybe..
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7th March 2014, 11:02
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,764
Car(s): Because racecar
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No replacement for displacement
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7th March 2014, 11:19
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 8,205
Car(s): :(s)rac
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This thread should be your inspiration.
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7th March 2014, 11:20
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,100
Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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the 1.4 from a furio or europe spec vtr is just a cooking model unit, basically its just for economy due to the head and cam used. Just start off with a better head in my view
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7th March 2014, 19:04
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L-plater
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LONDON
Posts: 73
Car(s): SAXO VTR 1.6 2001
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115 ? In a 1.1 me thinks the speedos buggered, mad amount of money to spend on a 1.1 tbh
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7th March 2014, 19:11
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: York
Posts: 2,134
Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)
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You'll never have a 1.1 thats great top end so best thing to concentrate on is handling. Make it as light as possible, fit best brakes possible and make it stiff as possible!
Ok it may not be fastest in a straight line but make it so in the corners you can keep as much speed up as you can!
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7th March 2014, 20:59
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 242
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lose as much weight as you can on the car that should help you out a fair bit.
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7th March 2014, 21:33
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,593
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrady72
and make it stiff as possible!
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Oh, you.
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