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26th January 2015, 17:34
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Angus, Scotland
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Car(s): Saxo rally car with 1.6 VTS twin cam engine
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Brakes for saxo
Evening guys,
I have a saxo rally car and i'm very much indebted to my friend who predominantly looks after it for me, trying my best to learn just at the moment.
My question is has anyone upgraded brakes, discs etc and know which sizes fit/ which to get? Completely standard just now and looking to get quicker and thought late braking (and bigger balls!) would be a good place to start.
Any info appreciated.
Cheers,
Greg
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26th January 2015, 19:04
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266 or 283 setups from 306's are the usual go-to upgrade. After that its usually hispec/brembo stuff
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26th January 2015, 19:25
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what surface you running on? Personally heavier brakes would be the last thing I'd want on a rally car due to more unsprung weight.
I'd start with a proper race pad and see how you get on.
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27th January 2015, 00:04
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Omp 971/c for tarmac, get som proper discs that can handle the heat. ie. ate power dics or brembo
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27th January 2015, 17:15
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CL Brakes RC6 or RC5 will be much better than the OMP range.
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27th January 2015, 21:30
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I used those omp on my street car.
They are carbon racepads, talk about overkill
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27th January 2015, 22:54
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Brembo 4 pots off 406 coupe are rather good to say the least! very very happy with mine 
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28th January 2015, 13:54
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Brembo 4 pots off 406 coupe are rather good to say the least! very very happy with mine |
It works as a great street upgrade as the weight of the brake calipers and discs is not particularly critical. Its still rather heavy though and deadens the steering and the ability for the suspension to quickly react over rougher terrain.
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28th January 2015, 16:33
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Angus, Scotland
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Thanks for everyone's replys, I do the STRC which is the Scottish Tarmac Rally Chanpionship, so all tarmac based, usually the tarmac is in fairly decent nick too, buying expensive pads is not what I'm after here looking at the long term -in my eyes- might look at the brembo pots as said and see how we get on, still listening though
Thanks,
Greg
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28th January 2015, 16:44
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You really dont want to increase unsprung weight. Its got to be one of the main things you want to reduce on a rally car! For a race car you need the smallest brakes you can get away with as any extra weight will impede performance in a number of key areas. You will be surprised at how effective a change in brake compound can really make. It may allow you to work with the setup you have. Are you overheating your brake discs and therefore needing a bigger disc? Long term you may want floating discs and lightweight calipers but thats money.
What brake pad compound do you run now?
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28th January 2015, 17:24
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28th January 2015, 17:34
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Ah Mikol. The man who spent hours upon hours in his bedroom writing shit like that up and calculating shit out, thinking 3 stud was the way forward. What a cunt.
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28th January 2015, 18:19
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Aye fair enough mate, as I say I run completely standard brakes discs calipers everything so brakes are just Dingbros best haha!
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28th January 2015, 22:18
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Well a standard OEM brake material will be terrible for racing on. I'm surprised you have not had issues with fade.
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