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5th February 2012, 20:20
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1.4-1.6
Right I want a VTR engine replacing my 1.4 so..my questions are...
1. Can I use the same loom?
2. Will I need unlocked VTR ECU
3. Stay with my 1.4 gearbox
And any other things to mention will help cheers
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5th February 2012, 20:52
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5th February 2012, 21:01
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Vts box as the 1.4 box is still quite long like a VTR box!
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5th February 2012, 21:07
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Car(s): mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
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to be on the safe side id get a vtr loom, if some one is selling a vtr engine then you might as well take the loom with it?
ecu- are you asking do you need a vtr ecu over a furio one? or do you need a unlocked ecu over a locked vtr ecu? you will want a vtr ecu to start with, and yes having it unlocked helps so much, all you need to do is remove your own immobilser before you plug the ecu in and it'll work, or if it comes locked off the top of my head you will need the key, pick up ring, immobilser and ecu from the same vtr, if the engine comes with a locked ecu and they have scrapped the car with the rest of the btis you need the engine is pretty much worthless as an unlocked ecu costs more than what a vtr engine is worth
and you can keep the 1.4 box and use your 1.4 drive shafts or the 2 piece vtr shafts, but if you fit the vtr box then you will need the vtr shafts as the 1.4 ones will leak oil
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5th February 2012, 21:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
to be on the safe side id get a vtr loom, if some one is selling a vtr engine then you might as well take the loom with it?
ecu- are you asking do you need a vtr ecu over a furio one? or do you need a unlocked ecu over a locked vtr ecu? you will want a vtr ecu to start with, and yes having it unlocked helps so much, all you need to do is remove your own immobilser before you plug the ecu in and it'll work, or if it comes locked off the top of my head you will need the key, pick up ring, immobilser and ecu from the same vtr, if the engine comes with a locked ecu and they have scrapped the car with the rest of the btis you need the engine is pretty much worthless as an unlocked ecu costs more than what a vtr engine is worth
and you can keep the 1.4 box and use your 1.4 drive shafts or the 2 piece vtr shafts, but if you fit the vtr box then you will need the vtr shafts as the 1.4 ones will leak oil
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Cheers..
Just I can get a 1.6 engine for 185 with unlocked ECU and loom deliverd..
U said unplug my imobiliser before fitting ECU what do you mean exactly?
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5th February 2012, 22:18
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As mine only has a laser line imobiliser...
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6th February 2012, 00:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo
Cheers..
Just I can get a 1.6 engine for 185 with unlocked ECU and loom deliverd..
U said unplug my imobiliser before fitting ECU what do you mean exactly?
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If you leave your imobiliser plugged in when you connect your unlocked ecu it will lock it and will be useless then its another £50-80 for another ecu.. not sure what a laser line imobiliser is though? Is it aftermarket?
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6th February 2012, 01:09
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Where's the immobiliser?..
Right lazed line just my alarm dude that fit it said that that's my immobiliser
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6th February 2012, 02:35
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Right done a bit of reading...
The immobiliser is behind the glove box?
I unplug that...with the old engine in? Running or non running?
Then fit new engine with new unlocked ECU
Then do I re-fit the immobiliser or not?
Really need help..cheers
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6th February 2012, 04:32
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Car(s): flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo
Right done a bit of reading...
The immobiliser is behind the glove box?
I unplug that...with the old engine in? Running or non running?
Then fit new engine with new unlocked ECU
Then do I re-fit the immobiliser or not?
Really need help..cheers
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remove immobiliser with the engine running. when you fit the new engine etc do not plug your immobiliser box back in or it WILL lock the new ecu...unless you cut the wires on the loom
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