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19th August 2014, 19:15
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Originally Posted by Gandi699
Thing is though if you change provider aren't the new ones going to be up to the same old tricks?
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theyre all greedy bastards mate..but some are decent enough
i looked into british gas alot when we were going through this and seems nearly everyone has been done like this or knows someone who has
i genuinely cant believe it goes on with the amount of ppl it happens to... can only assume someone is getting some decent back handers over it
do some googling its scary lol
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19th August 2014, 19:16
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I think it's because people are utterly inept at life?
Just phone them and don't be a penis
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19th August 2014, 19:23
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Muzz likes to nail men in the arse. IDEMT
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19th August 2014, 22:39
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hes back iirc
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Oo sweet! I'll let him have a couple of days with his mrs until I bother him with my friendship.
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20th August 2014, 11:31
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Originally Posted by Ryancoyle
Not too sure how it work's but I would ring them back and advise them you can't afford £200 monthly. If it was there fault then they should be liable but you know how much of a cunt companie's can act these day's. Citizen advice?
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I’ve tried that and I’ve opened a complaint with the company. I received a letter the other day saying “your complaint is still under investigation”, and that’s as far as I’ve got at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Manu
My mum went through the exact same story a few years back. She was overcharged to the tune of £800, they did not budge until she called watchdog and it was sorted within the half hour.
Surely they should offer more flexibility, as they often overcharge people under the guise of spreading out the cost throughout the year and give you affordable bills during winter. Well I think that's more like a smoke screen for them to score more money than what is due, and when it is due.
I don't think you should be penalised for their lack of accurate estimates. They should have sent someone to read the meter. I think you have reasonable grounds to complain.
http://www.ombudsman-services.org/energy.html
http://www.which.co.uk/switch/energy...w-to-complain-
Anyone else find their bill statements extremely hard to understand?
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It’s fucking disgusting that they can get away with it. To be honest, I’m not too bothered myself, but if this happened to an elderly person, or person who was already living on the edge of their budget, it could seriously mess them up financially. I intend to open a claim through the ombudsman (thanks for the links) and potentially seek legal advice from a solicitor if it’s relevant.
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Originally Posted by 0rang3peel
So have you been giving metre readings?
as when you put in a metre reading it adjusts the debit on your account as Chompy said (I'm with BG and it's the same)
If you haven't given any readings then it's surely an estimate?
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I gave readings. At one point, when I was complaining my bill was too low, I gave them a reading to correct my bill and received an email shortly after saying “thanks for the reading, we’ve added this to your account and your new bill is now available online”. I logged in, and the bill still ridiculously low.
At that point, as far as I was concerned, that reading was correct. That’s what I budgeted for, and being happy with that monthly amount, I continued to use gas and electricity at the same rate. Had I known that was incorrect, I would’ve used gas and electricity more frugally to save myself money. I basically got conned by British Gas. I feel like I’ve been ripped off my some dodgy dealer.
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Originally Posted by nicole_
you're in charge of the amount you pay though arent you?
Npower put my bill down from £60pcm to £19 recently, I called up straight away and asked them to put it back up. Lucky really as they'd used estimates and got it horribly wrong.
I guess just call and calmly ask to set up a payment plan, but one that you can afford?
I work in collections but its for housing and the minimum we accept for arrangements as laid out by the government is only £3.65 above rent a week!
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I am in charge for the amount I pay. But if I’m being told the price is £X, why would I pay £X+Y? It’s like walking in to a store and buying a loaf of bread priced at £1, but then paying the cashier £5, just in case they got the price wrong – it’s ridiculous.
With regards to your second paragraph, I did contact them, on several occasions, to confirm that the bill was correct. After being constantly reassured that it was, I took it as fact. I’m no gas or electricity provider, nor do I have any experience in the field, who am I to argue with British Gas?
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Originally Posted by L33h
Get a credit card with 0% interest on new purchases for 24 months (or 12 if you can only get one of those). Pay the amount on that and cut it up. That way you'll be able to have longer to pay the bill.
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That is an option I guess. I’m not too bothered about paying the cost. Even outright. It’s more the principle.
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Originally Posted by Mickswan
put her meter readings in online […] and her bills were far too low. Kept calling them and they insisted she was fine. […]After a few months went by she got hit with nearly a grand
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This sounds like exactly the same scenario as myself.
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Originally Posted by Mickswan
She rang up and complained. Fair enough she has to pay for what she's used but as they fucked up they agreed to half it.
Go the ought their complaints procedure and if you get no joy it goes to an ombudsman which I think is ofgem.
May go in the favour of British gas but if you don't try you don't get.
Remember to use the words inconvenience, stress, worry and panic. They are the key things which push a complaint forward.
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Thanks for that mate. I definitely plan on taking it up with the Financial Ombudsman because it’s outright ridiculous. As I said above, I genuinely feel like I’ve been conned by British Gas.
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Originally Posted by Gandi699
I had something similar with electricity. Was paying under what I should have been paying but the meter was "read" as normal by leaving the card in the window for the meter man - Not that he ever read the card the bellend and thusly I was undercharged. Come april this year I was stung with an 800 quid bill. In fact Im still paying over the odds, as I've paid the debt off now but they wont alter the figure until the next quarterly bill so i'm going to be 4-500 quid in credit.
Basically dont trust them to take meter readings, do it yourself online or on the phone as this is the situation you can get into if left
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I did submit my readings online, and even after doing so, British Gas still insisted it was correct.
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
Happened to us.. They kept us at £35 each for gas and electric and then dropped a £700 bill on us.. They do it to most from everyone Ive spoke to on the run up to winter so they can hammer you over the winter.. They do it as they know most ppl can't afford to pay the lump and leave them for another provider
My advice would be to try pay it in on go and just leave.. We did
They should be investigate for this it's shocking behaviour
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Thanks for the reply. You’re right, it is shocking behaviour. Something needs to be done about it. I’m planning on taking this as high as I can. Out of interest, I plan on switching provider, who did you swap to?
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
theyre all greedy bastards mate..but some are decent enough
i looked into british gas alot when we were going through this and seems nearly everyone has been done like this or knows someone who has
i genuinely cant believe it goes on with the amount of ppl it happens to... can only assume someone is getting some decent back handers over it
do some googling its scary lol
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It’s disgusting. For all British Gas know, I’m living my life financially on the edge as it is, this £1000+ bill could tip me over into financial ruin. As I said, I’m planning on taking this as high as I can. Not for the money reimbursement, that’s by-the-by, but for the principle.
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20th August 2014, 11:59
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I pay £100 per month on each.
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20th August 2014, 12:07
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Originally Posted by Stissy
I am in charge for the amount I pay. But if I’m being told the price is £X, why would I pay £X+Y? It’s like walking in to a store and buying a loaf of bread priced at £1, but then paying the cashier £5, just in case they got the price wrong – it’s ridiculous.
With regards to your second paragraph, I did contact them, on several occasions, to confirm that the bill was correct. After being constantly reassured that it was, I took it as fact. I’m no gas or electricity provider, nor do I have any experience in the field, who am I to argue with British Gas?
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no, but common sense would tell anyone that they're using more than 'almost £0' a month in fuel. If that loaf of breads price fluctuated and by paying more you'd reduce the overall payments in a year, then yes, I would pay more for the bread.
Sounds more like you were told your bill was low, made a phone call taking yes its correct as gospel and sufficient grounds to cover you if anything happened, and thought yay you're quids in here now paying next to nothing for gas and electric.
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20th August 2014, 12:19
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I love been nailed in the arse.
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20th August 2014, 13:03
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Originally Posted by Dany4494
I love been nailed in the arse.
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No, you love BEING nailed in the arse.
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20th August 2014, 13:04
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Originally Posted by Giraffe
No, you love BEING nailed in the arse.
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No been m8
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20th August 2014, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Dany4494
No been m8
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are you mortal or something?
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20th August 2014, 13:22
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Most of the time im too fucked up on codine to know what day it is.
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20th August 2014, 17:04
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Originally Posted by nicole_
no, but common sense would tell anyone that they're using more than 'almost £0' a month in fuel. If that loaf of breads price fluctuated and by paying more you'd reduce the overall payments in a year, then yes, I would pay more for the bread.
Sounds more like you were told your bill was low, made a phone call taking yes its correct as gospel and sufficient grounds to cover you if anything happened, and thought yay you're quids in here now paying next to nothing for gas and electric.
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Not at all. I've personally never paid a gas or electricity bill up until now. As I said above, I’m no gas or electricity provider, nor do I have any experience in the field, who am I to argue with British Gas?
If British Gas tell me that, even after I contacted them, a small bill per month is correct, then as far as I'm concerned, it's correct. I am unaware of what other people are paying, and as such, didn't realise that a small bill is unrealistic.
That's my position on the situation, and it won't change. I won't be taking responsibility for an error made by British Gas.
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20th August 2014, 18:01
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Tell that to the bailiffs then lol. Seriously though how are you going to get out of it? You've used the energy over time so it's your word against theirs really
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20th August 2014, 20:01
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Originally Posted by Gandi699
Tell that to the bailiffs then lol. Seriously though how are you going to get out of it? You've used the energy over time so it's your word against theirs really
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Please read the first post.
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20th August 2014, 20:04
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Lets get immortal!
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20th August 2014, 20:10
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I've read the first post, other than ringing them up to discuss a payment plan there isn't much other choice
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20th August 2014, 21:28
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Everyone days how expensive energy is. When I had problems, having never paid bills before and wondering if it was right, I asked everyone I knew what they paid. I'm taking it you didn't do any of that? You can even go on comparison websites and put how many live in house and so on and it shows what's best deal for you and what u expect to pay
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21st August 2014, 00:02
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Ok so for you the best case scenario is that they let you pay for the energy in a manageable way as one way or another the energy has been used, despite you potentially thinking you were using less than you actually were. (as you acknowledged)
So agree a payment plan with them, if they won't agree to something that you feel manageable or fair then make a complaint (assuming you've already done this and had an outcome you dislike) you need to speak to their exec complaints team and if they fail to help you need to take it to the omsbudsman.
They will usually try to resolve something before the omsbudsman comes in because it costs them money.
https://www.britishgas.co.uk/busines...unt-complaint/
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21st August 2014, 09:24
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Have you contacted the ombudsman that regulates energy suppliers? http://www.ombudsman-services.org/energy.html
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