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27th December 2011, 16:07
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Darlington
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Car(s): 2001 Saxo VTR 1.6
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Exhaust, work this out?
Hiya
Bought a massive round back box to fill the hole on the back on me VTR. It came off a VTR MK1 (the lad who i bought it off claimed) so wouldnt fit mine. Had it cut and welded into place but the exhaust is SILENT!, theres gases coming out of it so i know its not blocked....i wanted a bit of a roar to me car and now its even quieter than before!
What can i do to give it that little bit more of a grunt!? i thought a massive exhaust would of!
Thanks
Dave
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27th December 2011, 16:08
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Saxperience Addict
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remove any silencer boxes and decat it
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27th December 2011, 16:10
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Straight through centre pipe to remove any silencers in there, then it'll be loud. But with a massive back box you won't see amuch performance gain if an, you'll just lose back pressure unless it's a decent brand.
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27th December 2011, 16:10
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Darlington
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Car(s): 2001 Saxo VTR 1.6
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what do u mean remove silencer boxes? a friend of mine told me to pull the stuff out of the inside or fill with petrol and burn it out......the thing is, the lad who i bought it off said it was loud already!
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27th December 2011, 16:11
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Car(s): 2001 Saxo VTR 1.6
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im not arsed about performance gains pal, the cars quick enough, just wanted it for a little nicer sound and to fill the bumper
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27th December 2011, 16:13
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Dont burn anything out of the silencer thats pikey as out.
Get a centre pipe for it that is straight through. is it a Mk1 vtr?
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27th December 2011, 16:14
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27th December 2011, 16:14
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Darlington
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Car(s): 2001 Saxo VTR 1.6
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no mate mk2
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27th December 2011, 16:15
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L-plater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karlb1
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Erm.....ok? lol......dont get it lol
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27th December 2011, 16:17
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Basically behind the bcak box there should be a long pipe under the middle of the car. This will have 2, maybe 3 boxes along it somewhere?
You need to buy a 'racetube' or 'straight through centre pipe' to get rid of these. This will eliminate any silencing in the exhaust and will result in a loud backbox.
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27th December 2011, 16:18
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L-plater
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Darlington
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Car(s): 2001 Saxo VTR 1.6
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Ahh ok, so im assuming this is "decatting" my car yeah??
Are these expensive?
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27th December 2011, 16:22
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Not quite. a Decat is where you take the catlytic converter out of the car. Since yours is a MK2 vtr im assuming the cat is in the manifold, so getting a cetnre pipe wouldn't decat it, jsut take otu the silencers to give you a bit more noise.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/c...ust-pipes.html These are the pipes in question. Choose one suitable for the year of your car and for your budget. you can buy one with a silencer in it, but since you just want noise that won't be the option for you.
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27th December 2011, 16:22
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the cat is at the front of the car, a racetube is not a decat at all. you can get race tubes from about £50 new on ebay less if you look for second hand ones.
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27th December 2011, 16:26
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L-plater
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so if i get one of these will i get any gain from it and will i need to worry come MOT time?
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27th December 2011, 16:27
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In theory you would gain performance everso slghtly, but not a lot, it will just make it louder since you have a dustbin as your backbox.
Nope MOT time should be okay in theory, it's when you decat the car you have to worry about MOTs.
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27th December 2011, 23:09
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simple answer why there is no sound, if its quieter than before its too big for the engine size, de-cat will make it louder but if u wanna save your self a load of trouble just get a smaller box
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29th December 2011, 21:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karlb1
In theory you would gain performance everso slghtly, but not a lot, it will just make it louder since you have a dustbin as your backbox.
Nope MOT time should be okay in theory, it's when you decat the car you have to worry about MOTs.
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Technically wrong - if the car has (for example) 3 silencers as std then it should always need 3 to pass the MOT. Having said that I've never failed one or had one of mine fail either. It would be the tightest tester in the world that'd fail a car for that
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29th December 2011, 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by col101
Technically wrong - if the car has (for example) 3 silencers as std then it should always need 3 to pass the MOT. Having said that I've never failed one or had one of mine fail either. It would be the tightest tester in the world that'd fail a car for that
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My mk2 failed mot on exhaust being too loud because neighbours were complaining about the volume so the tester had to stop the mot lol
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31st December 2011, 15:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchiz
My mk2 failed mot on exhaust being too loud because neighbours were complaining about the volume so the tester had to stop the mot lol
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haha this made me laugh, i work in a MOT garage and when my boss MOTd my old 106 he had to wear ear defenders lol
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31st December 2011, 16:36
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wirral
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Car(s): some random saxo
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just save up and buy a decent exhaust,
manufacturers spend thousands building and testing
should be some cheap second hand ones on the usual places
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