Jobseekers Drug Test - Saxperience

GolfJay · 24th August 2012, 14:23

Random debate.

Do you guys think people claiming Jobseekers Allowance should be subject to a drug test to be able to claim?

Personally I think it's a great idea. Get a lot of these scum bags off the dole even if they are out of work

Brettles1986 · 24th August 2012, 14:24

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Originally Posted by SaxoJay88

Random debate.

Do you guys think people claiming Jobseekers Allowance should be subject to a drug test to be able to claim?

Personally I think it's a great idea. Get a lot of these scum bags off the dole even if they are out of work

Excellent idea and they should be given their job seekers in vouchers for supermarkets or related utilities.

D1zzyman · 24th August 2012, 14:26

yeah its a great idea

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

Excellent idea and they should be given their job seekers in vouchers for supermarkets or related utilities.

food stamps :O lol

MuZiZZle · 24th August 2012, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

Excellent idea and they should be given their job seekers in vouchers for supermarkets or related utilities.

That's a good idea but they'd probably sell them, then if you made the need to be backed up with ID, they'd sell the actual items, I like the cut of your jib though

Pitbull69 · 24th August 2012, 14:25

I agree, but some people are on the dole for drug abuse, as its now classed as a disbality, so it might be a bit hard to bring into practice

Sam^p · 24th August 2012, 14:26

I think job seekers should be stopped after 1month of not finding a job it will stop people being so picky when finding a job. And when the money stops it will get them off there ass and out looking for work.

Prickle^p · 24th August 2012, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think job seekers should be stopped after 1month of not finding a job it will stop people being so picky when finding a job. And when the money stops it will get them off there ass and out looking for work.

I think you should jump on seekers and try and find a PERM job within a month.

Not always down to being fussy.

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

unfortunately this is probably too short, 6 months is more reasonable. It's hard really to comment when you haven't been in that situation.

indeed.

Brettles1986 · 24th August 2012, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think job seekers should be stopped after 1month of not finding a job it will stop people being so picky when finding a job. And when the money stops it will get them off there ass and out looking for work.

unfortunately this is probably too short, 6 months is more reasonable. It's hard really to comment when you haven't been in that situation.

Sam^p · 24th August 2012, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Prickle

I think you should jump on seekers and try and find a PERM job within a month.

Not always down to being fussy.

indeed.

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Originally Posted by Brettles1986

unfortunately this is probably too short, 6 months is more reasonable. It's hard really to comment when you haven't been in that situation.

I was on Jon seekers, I couldn't find a job so I started a job in a factory and continued looking. No I have the job I wanted

jasonmayall · 24th August 2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Sam

I was on Jon seekers, I couldn't find a job so I started a job in a factory and continued looking. No I have the job I wanted

Good man, A lot of people should read this. Its better to have any job than no job at all. People will also find it far easier to get the job they want if they're already employed.

Prickle^p · 24th August 2012, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Sam

I was on Jon seekers, I couldn't find a job so I started a job in a factory and continued looking. No I have the job I wanted

Yeah been there myself. I just thought you was one of those dudes that say this and that.. (wont go into it, cba tbf).

And good stuff mate.

Sam^p · 24th August 2012, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Yeah been there myself. I just thought you was one of those dudes that say this and that.. (wont go into it, cba tbf).

And good stuff mate.

That's what I thought you where getting at that, I was just voicing my opinion.

Barry123 · 25th August 2012, 00:22

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think job seekers should be stopped after 1month of not finding a job it will stop people being so picky when finding a job. And when the money stops it will get them off there ass and out looking for work.

wooooah... There's graduates on the dole that often have months-long assessments before they get employed.

For non-graduate scum then yeah I cool with 1 month limit though.

dondan · 24th August 2012, 14:30

That's a great idea, personally I'd test the advisers at the job centre to as everyone I've experienced seems to be on fucking crack the amount of shit they come out with.

It's hard to decide who's a bigger waste of space, the drunk half stoned seeker or the adviser who is a habitual liar and completely full of shit (which I my experience they all are).

jasonmayall · 24th August 2012, 14:30

I think drug testing people on the dole is a great idea!
When i was 18 i was out of work when i got sacked from my job at subway ( I gave a free drink away lol) I was out of work for nearly a month before i landed on my feet again. During that time i done everything possible to find myself a job and it paid off. Been here for 3 years now, and im rather happy!

However, I do have a friend who's been out of a job now for nearly 2 years!
She has absolutely no interest in finding a job, even though she says she does.
She's on the dole, all day, all she does is play the xbox and smoke weed.
I've offered her a job at our place, doing just odds n sods but she doesn't want to work in insurance. my other friend also offered her a job in retail, but she doesn't want to work in retail.
They should be forced to work anywhere they are given the chance in that situation.
She's nearly 21 too, absolutely no prospects for herself.

smiith · 24th August 2012, 14:41

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Originally Posted by jasonmayall

I think drug testing people on the dole is a great idea!
When i was 18 i was out of work when i got sacked from my job at subway ( I gave a free drink away lol) I was out of work for nearly a month before i landed on my feet again. During that time i done everything possible to find myself a job and it paid off. Been here for 3 years now, and im rather happy!

However, I do have a friend who's been out of a job now for nearly 2 years!
She has absolutely no interest in finding a job, even though she says she does.
She's on the dole, all day, all she does is play the xbox and smoke weed.
I've offered her a job at our place, doing just odds n sods but she doesn't want to work in insurance. my other friend also offered her a job in retail, but she doesn't want to work in retail.
They should be forced to work anywhere they are given the chance in that situation.
She's nearly 21 too, absolutely no prospects for herself.

Think they should be forced to take one, but as for this.. Saying force people into any old job, it wouldn't work at all.. Most of the time, if you don't want to do the job, you won't put the effort in, which will harm businesses rather than help them get a decent employee..

The best thing to do, is after 6 months, force them into community work, like cleaning up the area they live in, painting fences and such.. They won't want to do it for free, so they will be more inclined to get a job

jasonmayall · 24th August 2012, 14:49

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Originally Posted by smiith

Think they should be forced to take one, but as for this.. Saying force people into any old job, it wouldn't work at all.. Most of the time, if you don't want to do the job, you won't put the effort in, which will harm businesses rather than help them get a decent employee..

The best thing to do, is after 6 months, force them into community work, like cleaning up the area they live in, painting fences and such.. They won't want to do it for free, so they will be more inclined to get a job

I agree. If they're happy enough to sponge for 6 months they should be more than happy to do community work and put something back.

I have a disabled friend, He's in a wheelchair and he's really trying to find a job, but obviously does find it difficult. But because he cant find a job and is having to claim benefits he's actually working as much as he can in a youth centre, he also helps a lot of disabled people learn to deal with their disabilities.

b0t13 · 24th August 2012, 14:55

work for the money is the best idea,

alot of junkies are on the dole so will fail anyway, if they dont get the money from the dole, theyll rob more stuff for the money = crime up! = more taxes

although unless disabled community work or no benefits should be enforced after around 8months, also the 'job' centre should be redone completely or just turned into a website that u log in to, as the people are shit from what ive heard

MuZiZZle · 24th August 2012, 14:56

community work is the way forward, even litter picking or sorting through recycling, the recycling would be my choice, it's something that we need done!

Manu · 25th August 2012, 11:35

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community work is the way forward, even litter picking or sorting through recycling, the recycling would be my choice, it's something that we need done!

chain gang convicts and have them do the litter picking. Now the real problem is common people with absolutely no pride and no respect for their environment who litter all over the place, what will that teach them? Oh it's fine I can drop my mcd takeaway, someone will pick it up.

And the recycling would be your choice? Your choice just put out people out of paid jobs. Just read the tesco scam that I linked above. You guys are aiming to open pandoras boxes all over the place thinking you have the solution to a problem that you have no idea about.