Sheds.

[Jay_]

I know a lot of you are 18 YO girls, but for the rest of you I am interested in what sheds you have, size, where you bought it from, easy to build etc.

I am looking to build myself a little recording studio / maybe bedroom in the next year or so, which means I want to find out how people have got on with theirs. Obviously I expect a lot of you use them for gardening / car crap. But I know my mum has a shed / summer house thing so you could be of help to me. Pros/ cons, where to buy from / avoid. Just, anything.

[Bedford126]

Recording studio is fine. But once you put a bed in there it becomes a whole different situation. You will need planning for a external living space and the shed will also have to be built to building regulations to 600mm deep minimum concrete foundations.

My shed is 4m by 2.5m breeze block with a wood and tar paper roof at 2m high. Use it to build engines in and spray the odd parts a home. cos just under 1k after roof and electrics and water in there.

[Bean]

Bedford your knowledge is superior! You should really join a pub quiz team!

[Jay_]

Originally Posted by Bedford126

Recording studio is fine. But once you put a bed in there it becomes a whole different situation. You will need planning for a external living space and the shed will also have to be built to building regulations to 600mm deep minimum concrete foundations.

My shed is 4m by 2.5m breeze block with a wood and tar paper roof at 2m high. Use it to build engines in and spray the odd parts a home. cos just under 1k after roof and electrics and water in there.

Wow, that's stuff I hadn't even considered! And far more than I thought I was going to get from a saxo site! Cheers man!

Originally Posted by Bean

Bedford your knowledge is superior! You should really join a pub quiz team!

I was a bit

[matt_vtr_15a]

Sheds are permittable development so don't require planning permission as long as you follow a few guidelines...

Check this site out Jay..

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per.../outbuildings/

Yes as said if it's used as a living space it should require building regs approval, but let's be honest you aren't going to be selling it anytime soon classing it as a living space are you?

You could chuck a bed in and have no issues if it's for your own personal use...

IMO

[Jay_]

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

Sheds are permittable development so don't require planning permission as long as you follow a few guidelines...

Check this site out Jay..

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per.../outbuildings/

Yes as said if it's used as a living space it should require building regs approval, but let's be honest you aren't going to be selling it anytime soon classing it as a living space are you?

You could chuck a bed in and have no issues if it's for your own personal use...

IMO

That's a great site thanks Matt!
Yeah it won't be a "living space" It will be a bed so I can crash there from time to time. Just think it would be cool staying in "my studio"

Totting up prices atm. It's going to be a huge investment for what i want to do.... Best get a job!

[TomT]

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

Sheds are permittable development so don't require planning permission as long as you follow a few guidelines...

Check this site out Jay..

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per.../outbuildings/

Yes as said if it's used as a living space it should require building regs approval, but let's be honest you aren't going to be selling it anytime soon classing it as a living space are you?

You could chuck a bed in and have no issues if it's for your own personal use...

IMO

My brother lived in the garage for about 3 years without mentioning it tbh, no trouble. Just like you say don't try and sell the place and call that a bedroom lol

[matt_vtr_15a]

Originally Posted by Jay_

That's a great site thanks Matt!
Yeah it won't be a "living space" It will be a bed so I can crash there from time to time. Just think it would be cool staying in "my studio"

Totting up prices atm. It's going to be a huge investment for what i want to do.... Best get a job!

No problem mate, It gives you some dimensions to work to as well!!

I can't see you exceeding 30m2 so you should have no issues..

The new house I've moved into has an amazing shed!!

It's about 9m by 3m with a canopy linked to it which forms an external working area...

Will be great in the summer, I just have nothing to use the shed for ahaha

[Jay_]

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

No problem mate, It gives you some dimensions to work to as well!!

I can't see you exceeding 30m2 so you should have no issues..

The new house I've moved into has an amazing shed!!

It's about 9m by 3m with a canopy linked to it which forms an external working area...

Will be great in the summer, I just have nothing to use the shed for ahaha

Yeah I'm looking at a 12' x 10' one. Should be plenty big enough for me!

Just no idea how much insulation I will need for the insides of the walls, what kind to get etc. This idea was only born 2 days ago so still pretty young!

[matt_vtr_15a]

Originally Posted by Jay_

Yeah I'm looking at a 12' x 10' one. Should be plenty big enough for me!

Just no idea how much insulation I will need for the insides of the walls, what kind to get etc. This idea was only born 2 days ago so still pretty young!

Personally I'd just buy insulation board mate...

Something like this.... or the 50mm thickness stuff... depends what thermal performance values you want really!

Celotex is good stuff though!

http://www.wickes.co.uk/celotex-insu...?source=123_74

[matt_vtr_15a]

Based on the your proposed shed size... to insulate the roof and 4 walls would cost £300 for that board I mentioned above...

there are obviously cheaper alternatives

[Jay_]

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

Personally I'd just buy insulation board mate...

Something like this.... or the 50mm thickness stuff... depends what thermal performance values you want really!

Celotex is good stuff though!

http://www.wickes.co.uk/celotex-insu...?source=123_74

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

Based on the your proposed shed size... to insulate the roof and 4 walls would cost £300 for that board I mentioned above...

there are obviously cheaper alternatives

Yeah, that is the stuff that we did my mums shed with Didn't know what it was called! Don't think there is any point me skimping as it is going to be full of fairly expensive gear so in the long run it will be best to pay out first time round!

[matt_vtr_15a]

Originally Posted by Jay_

Yeah, that is the stuff that we did my mums shed with Didn't know what it was called! Don't think there is any point me skimping as it is going to be full of fairly expensive gear so in the long run it will be best to pay out first time round!

I forgot you using it as a studio... Might be worth getting the 50mm stuff you will obviously have the cost of acoustic insulation on top of that as well!

insulation could be quite a significant cost overall, unless your neighbours don't mind a bit of banging?

[Bedford126]

Fuck that stuff from wicks. Get yourself some kingspan thermal acoustic It comes in 30 40 50 and 100mm thick sheets and comes in 1m x 400mm sheets and its about £30 per pack of 9

Any builders merchants sell it. Also if you are going for a wooden shed you want a vapour barrier between the wood and your internal wall or you will get mould and condensation.

[ed-bradley]

Mines more of a garage.
35ft in width, 26ft in depth.
Concrete base, and block/brick upwards on the sides.
We did it quite cheap really, as all of the bricks were left over from when the house was extended.
Me and my brother built it, goes the width of the garden.
I'd like to put a roller shutter door to to the rear of it for a car at somepoint, at the minute its partially a wall, but mostly glass on the rear.

Used to be a concrete panel shed/outhouse in its place, but it was scabby as fuck.

[Jay_]

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a

I forgot you using it as a studio... Might be worth getting the 50mm stuff you will obviously have the cost of acoustic insulation on top of that as well!

insulation could be quite a significant cost overall, unless your neighbours don't mind a bit of banging?

I don't want sound coming in either though, so thicker stuff will be winning.

Originally Posted by Bedford126

Fuck that stuff from wicks. Get yourself some kingspan thermal acoustic It comes in 30 40 50 and 100mm thick sheets and comes in 1m x 400mm sheets and its about £30 per pack of 9

Any builders merchants sell it. Also if you are going for a wooden shed you want a vapour barrier between the wood and your internal wall or you will get mould and condensation.

Sounds good Do you mean a separate vapour barrier or will the insulation do that?

Originally Posted by ed-bradley

Mines more of a garage.
35ft in width, 26ft in depth.
Concrete base, and block/brick upwards on the sides.
We did it quite cheap really, as all of the bricks were left over from when the house was extended.
Me and my brother built it, goes the width of the garden.
I'd like to put a roller shutter door to to the rear of it for a car at somepoint, at the minute its partially a wall, but mostly glass on the rear.

Used to be a concrete panel shed/outhouse in its place, but it was scabby as fuck.

Yeah that sounds colossal tbh. Bit OTT for my needs

Sounds good though.

I was also expecting to check this and have 30 pages of top notch shed information. You suck sax-p.

[Manu]

Be careful about adding a bed and other living creatures arrangements, purely because of the old dust issue... Also as a standalone building, you will need some heating and insulation against elements. You definitely do not want moisture getting in etc.

[matt_vtr_15a]

Originally Posted by Jay_

I don't want sound coming in either though, so thicker stuff will be winning.

Sounds good Do you mean a separate vapour barrier or will the insulation do that?

Kingspan is the better stuff, it's one of the products that we pretty much always specify on our projects.

Wasn't aware it was available for the general public to get their hands on small amounts of the stuff... Obviously it is so I would definitely opt for that!!

You will need a 'seperate' vapour barrier!

[baker556]

The rents are looking at getting a shed or log cabin.

Better thing with the log cabin is the use of better materials and also insulation but they cost a bomb compared to a shed.

Best bet is to buy a shed then insulate it if your doing it on the cheap.

They also looked at a single skin brick building which would be near the same price of the log cabin but the log cabin giving the better insulation.

As for planning permission you can pretty much do whatever you want with a shed these days. They can be put basically on the boundary. You don't need planning for sleeping arrangements or heating its when your running pipes into it and toilets etc it can get abit technical.

[NismoSteve]

So what's this vapour barrier made of?