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4th September 2012, 17:35
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Fail Brake conversion
Whats up guys i have the gti-6 lucas callipers and pads etc along with 283mm discs which i tried fitting to my car yesterday and once everything was on the disc would not even spin as rubbed on the inside of the frame, only way to make it clear was undo the calliper bolts like 2cm's!
What have you guys done or what am i missing out?
I have already grinded the top corners for strut clearance and im not sure what to do now as i need them on badly old ones are knackered!
Car is a 02 VTR with ABS if needed Thanks in advance!!
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4th September 2012, 17:46
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you got the right disc's? dunno if they are same as the 206 GTi brakes but some arent deep enough and hit the carrier
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4th September 2012, 17:56
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you got the right disc's? dunno if they are same as the 206 GTi brakes but some arent deep enough and hit the carrier
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well the guy told me thats what they came off :/ they are really wide
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4th September 2012, 18:00
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Iirc there are two types of caliper that use the 283mm discs, and i think the discs were different.
For example theres the older type (Lucas caliper)
And the newer type (Bosch)
The newer type uses quite a lot thicker discs iirc, so you've probably got the wrong ones.
A quick look here seems to verify this
http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ter%20cylinder
I take it the carrier will bolt up flush to the mounting holes when the disc isnt fitted?
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4th September 2012, 18:13
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Originally Posted by DanTvts
Iirc there are two types of caliper that use the 283mm discs, and i think the discs were different.
For example theres the older type (Lucas caliper)
And the newer type (Bosch)
The newer type uses quite a lot thicker discs iirc, so you've probably got the wrong ones.
A quick look here seems to verify this
http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ter%20cylinder
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I see yes thats exactly right mate and i assume the wrong discs which is annoying, i have the lucas type but they where purchased from dealer in 2011 guessing that still does not matter though as like you said they use smaller discs!
i will bookmark this and take a look later thanks mate!
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4th September 2012, 18:34
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I see yes thats exactly right mate and i assume the wrong discs which is annoying, i have the lucas type but they where purchased from dealer in 2011 guessing that still does not matter though as like you said they use smaller discs!
i will bookmark this and take a look later thanks mate!
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Yeah the thickness is the issue, i'm not sure whether the offset was different too but i'd imagine you have the newer type discs which won't clear.
Obviously you could measure the thickness of the discs you have and compare them to the dimensions in that guide to see which ones yours are.
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5th September 2012, 16:55
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Yeah will do exactly that cheers for that massive help top man!
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5th September 2012, 17:55
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hmmm not heard of a VTR with ABS before. thought it only came standard on VTS's.
and i would also suggest disc size being incorrect. 
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5th September 2012, 18:18
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Abs came as an extra iirc on the VTRs?
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5th September 2012, 18:50
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Quote:
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Abs came as an extra iirc on the VTRs?
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indeed it did i had an mark1 vtr with abs on it a few years ago
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oh really.....
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5th September 2012, 18:56
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Don't go grinding away metal, there are brakes out there that will bolt on no problem
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5th September 2012, 23:44
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Don't go grinding away metal, there are brakes out there that will bolt on no problem
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You have to on these and the lucas 266 brakes, only a tiny bit and it's like not making the structure/support any worse than standard
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6th September 2012, 00:25
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I think he ment to the centre of them which I considered lol, measured the discs earlia they are 25 - 26 mm wide :o was shocked so yeah wrong discs, not sure weather to get some hispecs brembos etc, or get more discs? Anyone got a place or link to suggest some drilled and grooved fronts to fit the lucas GTI6's?
Massive help so far really appretiate it!
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6th September 2012, 00:27
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Do you need drilled and grooved discs? Why not just get some normal ones from euro car parts with 106OC 25% off?
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What is the full name of the stuff you use to t cut badges, Thanks
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6th September 2012, 00:32
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Do you need drilled and grooved discs? Why not just get some normal ones from euro car parts with 106OC 25% off?
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what do you mean by this?
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7th September 2012, 22:09
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You get 25% off all parts when you use that's code
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8th September 2012, 00:03
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Gti6 only ever used 283x22mm discs and lucas caliper, try carparts4less, ecp but cheaper.
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8th September 2012, 21:50
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one sec will take a look
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8th September 2012, 21:52
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can you link me to some decent standard ones please at a reasonable price cant find all that much
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